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Trump's miracle cure - j.p. - 10-08-2020

https://www.salon.com/2020/10/08/trumps-miracle-covid-19-treatment-was-developed-using-cells-derived-from-an-aborted-fetus-report/


Quote:The lab tests used to evaluate the effectiveness of the antibodies were derived from what the MIT Technology Review pointed out was a standard cell supply known as HEK 293T. It originated as kidney tissue derived from an abortion in the Netherlands in 1973, the same year Roe v. Wade was decided.

Quote:Those cells have since been "immortalized" in labs — they keep dividing endlessly, similar to cancerous growth — and have gone through other genetic changes, according to MIT. Over such a length of time, they can become disassociated from their origin.

"It's how you want to parse it," a Regeneron spokesperson told MIT. "But the 293T cell lines available today are not considered fetal tissue, and we did not otherwise use fetal tissue."


RE: Trump's miracle cure - k.d. - 10-08-2020

All I know is I don't take anything from Big Pharma and believe any human disease can be cured or treated with weeds/herbs. I wonder if Trump knew where that stuff came from. I heard that the vaccines will have aborted baby cells. I say, No thanks.

RE: Trump's miracle cure - j.p. - 10-08-2020

Most medicines are derived from plant, animal and human tissue.

I find it peculiar that anti choice folks prefer that fetuses be unceremoniously incinerated.

RE: Trump's miracle cure - k.d. - 10-08-2020

Quote:I find it peculiar that anti choice folks prefer that fetuses be unceremoniously incinerated.
No. Pro-choice people prefer babies to be born. I know of no one who wants premature cremations.

Again, there is absolutely no reason in the 21st Century for an unwanted pregnancy. Anyone who says differently or defends abortion is one sick SOB.

RE: Trump's miracle cure - j.p. - 10-09-2020

(10-08-2020, 09:55 PM)k.d. Wrote:
Quote:I find it peculiar that anti choice folks prefer that fetuses be unceremoniously incinerated.
No. Pro-choice people prefer babies to be born. I know of no one who wants premature cremations.

Again, there is absolutely no reason in the 21st Century for an unwanted pregnancy. Anyone who says differently or defends abortion is one sick SOB.
There are reasons. You could admit that you may not understand them , not sure I do. But there are apparently reasons, that is fact.

But nonetheless it's off-topic , I was talking about post abortion. If "Pro Lifers" are actually pro life, they would be all for using the tissue to save lives. But they prefer burning them. All just to make a political statement. Sad !

RE: Trump's miracle cure - k.d. - 10-09-2020

When do pro-lifers take delivery of the aborted to burn them? I've never heard of that.

RE: Trump's miracle cure - j.p. - 10-09-2020

(10-09-2020, 08:34 AM)k.d. Wrote: When do pro-lifers take delivery of the aborted to burn them? I've never heard of that.
Anti choicer/sciencers are almost universally against using the tissue to save lives. There is no other way to dispose of the tissue than in a furnace.


https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pro-life-groups-protest-embryonic-stem-cell-research

RE: Trump's miracle cure - k.d. - 10-09-2020

From the article:
"We are not against stem cell research, we are definitely pro-technology, pro-science. We believe in the advancement of all sciences, except for those that destroy human life."
Seems clear to me.

RE: Trump's miracle cure - j.p. - 10-09-2020

(10-09-2020, 09:56 AM)k.d. Wrote: From the article:
"We are not against stem cell research, we are definitely pro-technology, pro-science. We believe in the advancement of all sciences, except for those that destroy human life."
Seems clear to me.
My point exactly

Stem cell research on embryonic cells does not destroy anything. It only saves.

RE: Trump's miracle cure - k.d. - 10-09-2020

"except for those that destroy human life."
What part don't you understand?